Newsletter #534
A very quiet week all round, mainly due to the plethora of internationals. Best story has to be the non-football related confession by Michael Portillo of ‘homosexual experiences’ as a student at Cambridge – wonder if Michael’s definition of an experience approximates to Clinton’s definition of sex? Yes indeed, news has been scarce!
This issue has the usual ‘news summary’, and Les Saul has kindly sent in the minutes from the latest Fans’ Committee meeting. Elsewhere there’s a few offers of tickets (Palace and S’ton), more ticket office frustration, and an unusual Why Blue (more needed please).
After considering the replies to my request for feedback on the format of MCIVTA, it’s clear that many people don’t find the time to read through every issue, and so would appreciate being able to pick up the salient facts as quickly as possible. To this end, I’ll inlcude the actual match results and big news stories in the editorial introduction, and start the issue itself with the news, followed by the match reports themselves. Those who’d rather read the reports without knowing the scores will need to skip the front end.
Lastly, there are quite a number of requests coming to MCIVTA re contacting or asking for information on the Official Supporters’ Club and its many branches. Les Saul has asked me to let everyone know that much in this regard is available at the OSC’s own web site (http://www.mancity.net/osc/) – definitely worth a visit if you’re interested in meeting up with other Blues.
Next game: Crystal Palace at home away, Saturday 11th September 1999NEWS SUMMARY
Internationals Rest After Mixed Success
City’s international clan returned to England on Thursday for a day of rest at the instruction of manager Joe Royle. The City boss wants all his squad members who have been on international duty in the last week to be well rested before the Blues take on Crystal Palace on Saturday. There was mixed success for the four City men in action for their countries. Nick Weaver figured in goal as England under-21s were beaten 3-1 in Poland, making a string of fine saves before committing what the Sporting life called a “horrendous misjudgement” to allow the Poles a second goal. Jeff Whitley produced an impressive display as captain of Northern Ireland’s under-21 side in a narrow 1-0 loss against Germany. Kevin Horlock played for Lawrie McMenemy’s senior side as they lost to Turkey and Germany, leaking seven goals without reply. And Mark Kennedy, having missed the Republic of Ireland’s last-gasp defeat in Croatia, returned to the side for the win over Malta.
Pompey Fixture Confusion
Alan Ball’s long-awaited return to Maine Road could after all take place on October 9. It was thought that the match against Ball’s Portsmouth side would be moved from its original date, with likely call-ups for Northern Ireland’s game with Finland and the Republic’s trip to Macedonia set to ensure the Blues would be in a position to call the game off. Kevin Horlock’s booking in Dortmund on Wednesday, however, means he’ll be serving a one-match ban when his side take on the Finns, while Jim Whitley and Tommy Wright are out on loan. If they don’t return, City will probably have only Jeff Whitley and Mark Kennedy on international duty so would have to go ahead with the game missing two of the season’s most effective performers so far.
Coppell to get Extra Protection
Whenever Portsmouth end up fulfilling their fixture engagement in Moss Side, it seems certain that Ball will face a fairly hot reception. But if extra security measures are required at least the police and stewards will be in practice. Saturday’s visit of Crystal Palace sees the return of another opposing manager who will provoke a strong crowd reaction. Steve Coppell, of course, was in the City hot seat for 33 days in October and November 1996 before quitting for what he claimed at the time were “health reasons”. His return as Palace manager shortly afterwards raised doubts about the story, and as a result, Coppell seems certain to face a barrage of anger on his first visit to Maine Road since.
City Deny Marcelo Link
The Blues have denied that they’re about to swoop for Sheffield United’s Brazilian striker Marcelo. Weekend newspaper reports linked the 29-year-old with a move to Maine Road, but Joe Royle commented this week, “Any suggestions that we are checking him out on a weekly basis are presumptuous to say the least. We scout all the First Division sides we are playing. We haven’t moved for anybody nor have we any plans to, at this moment in time.”
Brown Off as Reserves Crash
Michael Brown was sent off for two bookabkle offences as the City reserves suffered a heavy 4-0 reverse away to West Brom on Wednesday. However, the Blues can’t cite the midfielder’s indiscretions as the reason for the defeat as he was dismissed late on when Albion had already competed the scoring. Italian winger Max Iezzi scored a hat-trick for the hosts, while Alan Oliver bagged the fourth.
Crystal Palace – Preview
Most of the attention will focus on Steve Coppell’s return to what was briefly his former stamping ground and the reappearance of City’s all-time record signing Lee Bradbury. However, the most important aspect of Crystal Palace’s visit is surely that the game offers the Blues a chance to continue their impressive early-season sequence of results. Palace are languishing second from bottom of the table with four points from five games and possess the section’s worst defensive record after conceding 15 goals. Even so, a warning comes from the fact that their only win so far was away to fourth-placed Barnsley. Losing this game after beating Bolton and Forest would be typical of the City behaviour we’ve become accustomed to down the years, but a win might just be further evidence that Joe Royle is successfully tackling City’s self-destructive streak.
Peter Brophy (brophy_peter@hotmail.com)MCFC AND FANS’ COMMITTEE
Attending for MCFC: Chris Bird, Bernard Halford, Peter Fletcher and Sara Billington.
Attending for Fans: Carl Heald, Bill Black Dave Beddard, Les Saul, Graham Brine, Ian Barton, Dave Wallace and Stephen Knott.
1. Superstore
1.1 The Club sticks by its decision to only offer 5% discount for season ticket holders. This was raised because many other sports shops offered 10% discount to everyone. The Club feel that the shirt is very good value for money at £39.99 and it is for the fan to decide as to who to spend their money with.
1.2 The Club are to introduce an extensive range of gift items (`nic nacs’) in the Superstore during the month of September. Some items are already available (see separate list).
1.3 The Club will have exclusive day/s of sale for the next shirt launch. We did not have this for the new home shirt because the administration involved in setting up the kit sponsor and manufacturer etc. did not leave sufficient time for this to be arranged.
1.4 A small range of Moonchester merchandise will soon be available through the Junior Blues.
1.5 The store which recently closed in the Arndale Centre will not be replaced. All efforts are being concentrated into the Superstore at Maine Road. This could change in the future but until then the Club will just have the two outlets at Maine Road. There is no possibility of having satellite shops within JD Sports outlets, the investment made by JD is a personal investment not a business one.
2. Scoreboard
2.1 It is not possible to have a time countdown on the scoreboard at Maine Road. The new stadium will be able to incorporate this feature.
2.2 The Manager does not want the declared injury time being announced or displayed towards the end of a game. This could distract the players.
3. EIDOS
Eidos are also sponsoring the Junior Blues. Watch out for the new interactive meetings and Playstation road shows.
4. Cup Game vs. Burnley
The Club do not want to offer concession priced tickcts for all areas of the ground for cup games at Maine Road. They are only willing to offer this option to OAP/Jnr season ticket holders and in the family stand areas. This decision is made because all prices have to be agreed with the opposing team, who invariably wish to maximise gate receipts. The competition sponsors also do not want to see the competition `devalued’ by having cheap prices and special discounts. Note: Home game vs. Southampton. Away fans will be accommodated in block UU (open corner).
5. Season Tickets
5.1 There are only approx. 800 season tickets left on sale for this current season. When these have been sold we will be at our maximum number of S/T holders – 22,370.
5.2 If we reach the max. number of S/T holders, anyone who is in the position of having to move out of a family stand will still have the option to purchase their S/T in other areas of the ground.
5.3 The Club are looking at sending out renewed S/T books as and when they are paid for. This will ensure that the work involved with S/T renewal is spread over a longer period of time and not performed during a three week period.
6. Away Fans / North Stand Congestion
The Club are carrying out a six-month review of Health and Safely at Maine Road. One area to be looked at is the North Stand / Kippax Stand corner. Panstadia International, a company with expertise in crowd movement, are to study and advise the Club on this area.
7. Ticket Office
7.1 When the new members’ club card and tracking systems comes `on line’ this will remove many of the problems fans experienced when buying tickets for Fulham. This is part of an overall review of ticket sales at Maine Road.
7.2 The Club are to spend £25K on match ticket adverts in the Manchester Evening News. The first advert appeared on 1/9/99. Wednesdays are the preferred day for the adverts but this may not be always possible.
7.3 Ticket information is available by Email and this information is also going to be circulated through the supporters’ clubs.
7.4 The Club are still using the postal application system for away tickets but the tracking system may remove the need for this. What do you think about postal applications?
7.5 The advance sale of tickets for the Liverpool friendly incurred a booking fee. This was a new ‘one off’ idea but the Club does not rule out the possibility of using this method of sale again.
7.6 Tickets for the Forest away game are £19 adults and £10 concessions . The Club are to investigate whether this is the price for all their fixtures.
7.7 The tickets for the Walsall away fixture are reserved seats. This is assuming the stewards at Walsall monitor the seating areas.
7.8 The Club are setting up a consumer group to discuss matters concerning the ticket office. Watch for details on this matter in the near future.
8. Hooligans
A recent press report indicated that City had a high arrest rate during last season . The Club did not correct this report because the figures were misleading (e.g. large number of arrests for ticket touting).
9 A.O.B.
9.1 The game vs. Portsmouth 9/10/99 could be postponed due to internationals.
9.2 The TV’s in the bar areas are being turned off after half time to encourage fans to return to their seats. This has caused fans to complain. The Club will consider leaving them on for longer and also having the TV’s on after the game.
9.3 The bars are now open 10 minutes before and 10 minutes after the half time interval. This is to help ease the congestion.
10. Next Meeting
The next Fans’ Committee meeting is :Monday 4 October 1999, 7.30 p.m. Oasis Suite, Platt Lane. Any City fans are welcome to attend. If you have an opinion about how the football club operates, don’t just complain about it, come along and help us put it right. No other football club has this facility so let’s use it, it can only help and it’s better than nothing!
Les Saul (les-mcfcsc@cwcom.net)SPONSORSHIP FOR ACADEMY TEAMS
MCIVTA 531 ran the following and to date I’ve half a sponsorship sorted. Email problems over the weekend mean some replies might have been bounced so if you’ve not heard from me in reply to an offer of money please email me again. Thanks to Ben Brooks, David Hoffman, Julie Myers and Duncan Madden-Ross so far.
The Bank Holiday match program contained an ad asking for people to sponsor City’s junior teams and women’s teams. The ad asked for a contribution of £25, which looked eminently affordable. However, when I phoned the club I discovered the catch – the figure shown in the ad was a typo and someone, somewhere, had omitted a zero, and the real cost is £250. Three sponsors are wanted for each team.
Are there any other MCIVTA readers who would care to chip in a few pounds to help with the development of young players? Ten lots of twenty five pounds shouldn’t be too hard to raise, should it?
Meanwhile, I’m looking for five more contributions to help one of City’s junior teams.
Please contact me directly if you’re interested – roger.haigh@icl.com
Roger Haigh(roger.haigh@icl.com)CITY HASTA MORIR – MORE AWAY END MEMORIES
Finding a much hoped-for, shadily-arranged ticket for a derby at the Swamp to be a dreaded 90-minute sentence in the Stretford End is a bummer indeed. May 1991, and it happened to me. Scare stories about automatic ejection got to me that year, so I somehow didn’t think I’d get away with “Hello, I’m a Blue, will you bleeding get me out of here”. I had a Spanish A-level exam just days after the game but I hadn’t been practising my spoken Spanish, a weaker area. However, I have often been asked if I’m from Spanish roots, as I hardly match the Aryan ideal.
So I tried it on as a lost tourist, the least tenuous ploy (you should hear my other possibilities). I went up to a copper and, attempting to look somewhat distressed, I mouthed anything in Spanish I could remember and waved my hands a lot in the direction of the Blue Army across that mire which, that year, posed as a pitch. The copper wasn’t having any of it, until he spotted a man who, as it turned out, was the head steward. Within my earshot, he said he knew basic Spanish and would speak to me. His first words: “Habla despacio”, or ‘speak slowly’. Oh bugger … I didn’t know this Spanish word for ‘slow’, knowing another instead (‘lentamente’, for the record). Great start.
A story was improvised which, if you consider the Rag perception of foreigners, stretched credibility, from the base fact that my alter-ego, a Catalan lad called Marcio (a Brazilan name at that) had come over from Barcelona to watch City. Yeah, right.
“A friend who I stay with, er, have my plane ticket and he with my father in Blue part and I am sure it is Blue, because they like City, and I’m with United not Blue like their other end, the man in Adidas cloth-ez sell me teecket, cost 40 pound, was for Blue part, oh no. Please, senor, my friend have plane ticket for my flight straight after game, 9.40 tonight, Iberia. I have no money”. All in the simplest Spanish, with flimsy accent.
The Rag-herder looked at me out of the corner of his eye. I knew the game was up. There I was, conversing in crap Spanish despite surely having been born no more than a matter miles from this guy. But, sure enough, he had the coppers release me into that converted gutter which lovely Mr Edwards used to reserve for us, where we used to get showered from above with any close-to-hand missile … meat pies, boiling bovril, coins, small children etc. The coppers made comments designed specially for me as we strolled down the touchline: “I bet he is from f**kin’ Manchester after all” “How many d’yer reckon we’ll stuff em by?” and, er, “Ugly bast*rd or what?”, but we were way past the dug-outs and near ‘sanctuary’. Bothered!
Of course, we lost 0-1. Colin Hendry ‘scored’ it but, as the local press wanted to indulge in their first bit of Bryan Briggs-related w**k, the part-time welshman took the credit for it. Never did like that bloke.
Marc Starr (MARCATU@aol.com)THOUGHTS ON ATTENDANCE
In response to the person who asked for thoughts on City’s attendance levels (I think it was David Kilroy)… I was at the recent fans’ forum at Maine Road and Dennis Tueart and David Bernstein were waxing lyrical about the magnificent new stadium at Eastlands and how it would be state of the art etc. We have all heard this from the club plenty of times before and so I shall not repeat it here. Tueart stated that the ground would have a capacity of 48,000 by the time City start to use it and a supporter asked if that would be enough, especially if by that time we have a successful team (please God). Although Bernstein said that the capacity could be increased, more pertinently I think was his comment that he felt that crowds at football matches would now go into a decline. At first I was surprised at this, after all, City’s crowds have been increasing ever since the new Kippax opened, but the more you consider it the more logical it is. Throughout the lower leagues (Divisions 2 and 3) clubs are struggling to get people through the gate. Port Vale have just built (half of) a fancy new stand and last week had their lowest league crowd for 11 years, just 3,700. This for a team in their highest league standing in their history. Burnley vs. Manchester City – a match featuring two big clubs, yet barely 3,000 turned up. Stoke City’s crowds in a new stadium are hovering around 8,000-10,000, some 5,000 below a breakeven figure. Bolton Wanderers vs. Birmingham City with the Reebok 60% empty. In the Premiership where football is so sexy, Derby County have lost 2,000 season ticket holders this season. Leicester City have also seen a drop in season ticket sales. Add to this the impending explosion of digital TV and spiralling costs and you have all the signs of the football bubble bursting. So far only Manchester City in the Nationwide and a handful of clubs have bucked this trend, but for how much longer? And if the crowds do start to drop what will that leave for those still here, costs and wages etc. still to be paid. It could be a very gloomy outlook indeed.
Happy Christmas everybody.
Jim Curtis (jimcurtis@cwcom.net)OPINION – TICKET OFFICE
After spending 27 minutes trying to get through to Dial-a-seat to book my own seat for the home Southampton game (without success), I thought that I’d get a few things off my chest.
I hate queueing. I really do, it borders on the obssessive. If there is a queue of more than 5 people or so at a checkout, I’ll leave without buying what I went in for. The only times I have queued for any length of time at Maine Road are for tickets for the derbies and of course, last season’s Wembley trip. Before last season, Dial-a-seat worked for me as I am fortunate enough to be a regular season ticket holder and could therefore book an away ticket on the Monday following the tickets’ release the previous Saturday. Rarely did I miss out on a game that I wanted to go to. Last season of course, tickets for some games were in pretty short supply. Having said that I got tickets without any problems (or queueing) for most of the games I wanted to go to. The obvious exceptions being Macc and Wigan.
Although something had to be done to avoid a repeat of the problems of the play-offs and Wembley ticket distribution, I can’t help but feel that the club has taken a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Every away game so far has requested a previous ticket stub, the most silly being (in my opinion) the away leg of the Southampton tie. Until today (Thursday 9th) tickets were only available to Regular Season Ticket holders who went to Burnley away. As there were only 1,500 or City fans in total who went to that game, it’s probably fair to assume that 600-700 maximum were RSTH’s. How many of them will want to/be able to get to Southampton on a Wednesday night? OK it’s I suppose a ‘big game’ for us, but to Southampton fans it’s the first round against a lower division team – it’s hardly likely to sell out, is it? The postal application system avoids queuing but so does the Dial-a-seat service. I missed out on going to Bolton because I simply forgot to post my application. Because I missed out on Bolton, I’ve also missed out on Walsall because I didn’t have a Bolton ticket stub! Presumably I’ll miss some other game because I haven’t got the Walsall ticket. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realise that this system for ‘normal games’ is unnecessary, results in poor customer service and is plain silly. There will be games throughout the season (like Fulham) where our section is far from full because of this system.
Come on, let’s use some common sense. If we get an allocation over 3,000, which we will for most games, forget this postal/ticket stub situation. If we go on a cup run or for games like Crewe, then fair enough, introduce a filtering system. Whilst I’m having a rant, upgrade the blo*dy phone system so we don’t have to queue for half an hour at our expense to speak to someone. I feel better for that!
On the basis that I can find the correct E-Mail address, I’ll send a ‘version’ of this to the club. I’ll let you know if/ when I get a response.
Phil Hartley (philh@firstcap.freeserve.co.uk)OPINION – MCIVTA I
Following Kieran’s suggestion, I would like to support his view. Being a Blue in exile (Yorkshire!) I too find info on MCFC difficult to come across. My only real source of news/gossip/humour is from McVittee. With two kids of my own I fully understand Kieran’s point and as one of my “darlings” has filed the TV remote to the Twilight Zone, I cannot even benefit from TeleText.
My wife has banned Sky:
- Too expensive – I must agree
- Watch too much football already – I’m not so sure of this
My suggestion would be a headline section at the beginning with the news to follow. I am not too bothered about match reports as I usually get this from the papers but I understand it is very important to those exiled further a field than myself.
I still think this is a brilliant service from all concerned.
CTID, Paul Erkersley (peckersley@williamhill.co.uk)OPINION – MCIVTA II
- Kieran Daly’s News bit. I agree. Am stuck in London, but willobviously still be able to get match results via radio or teletext.Peter’s news summaries are one of the highpoints of McVitee, mainly becauseI can’t get ready access to the Manchester media and instead have to sufferbulletins about the Gooners etc.
- Humour section. What about creating one? Have loved the jokes thathave appeared so far. Again, don’t forget that the ones that do the roundsat Maine Road or in Manchester pubs don’t necessarily make it outside.More Rag jokes certainly!
IT’S NOT THE SIZE THAT’S IMPORTANT, IT’S THE WIDTH
Apologies in advance if this topic has been discussed before, but does anyone know if the width of… wait for it… City’s new pitch will be maintained when we move to the new ground? I understand that Maine Road has one of the widest [pitches] in English football. Obviously, a strength for teams that like to play with wingers; unfortunately for some opposition teams too… uhm!
James Barber – Grenoble, France (JAMES_BARBER@HP-France-om4.om.hp.com)OFFER – SOUTHAMPTON (HOME) TICKET
Anyone want to buy a ticket for the Worthy Cup game? Lower Kippax block BB row 19, about 15 yards from the half way line.
Call me on 07867 822613 or email to roger.haigh@icl.com
Roger Haigh (roger.haigh@icl.com)OFFER – PALACE TICKETS
2 tickets for Saturday’s game against Palace.
Platt Lane End. 13 pounds each ONO!
Email me on g.fones@lancaster.ac.uk
or phone 07887 996074 if interested.
Also if Stuart Ormson still reads this can you give me an email as I have lost your email and phone number.
Gary Fones (g.fones@lancaster.ac.uk)APPEAL – MALCOLM FLITCROFT
I would like to renew my appeal to the readers to help me locate one of our old City mates. Would any of you Blues out there who have a Flitcroft among their friends, relatives, neighbours, workmates and colleagues, enquire if anybody knows the current whereabouts of the following Flitcroft?
MALCOLM FLITCROFT – aged approx.49/50.
School – St.Greg’s, Ardwick Green ’61 to ’66 inc.
Address – Woodhouse Park (Wythenshawe) to 1970, thereafter Moss Side. Yeh, where is he now?
We covered some miles together following the ‘Blues’ on Holts and Finglands coaches with Eddie Pannett and Arnie Bradley. Malcolm had an old coach horn that sounded like the Titanic, on a bad day, and functioned as a clarion call for ‘Blues’ on ‘away’ terraces and was as familiar as Helen’s bell, under the old Kippax roof and on the Scoreboard End.
One of the bunch is approaching 50 next Spring and his wife would love to surprise him with a re-union of his old Blue mates. Come on you Blues – help me. A telephone number or an E-mail address would be brilliant.
Malcolm Flitcroft
Kippax Exile, Dave Lyons (Dave.D.Lyons@OPC.shell.com)ESSEX AND SUFFOLK BLUES
City vs. Port Vale at Maine Road:
The Essex & Suffolk branch are running a coach to Maine Road for the match against Port Vale on 2nd October 1999. If you fancy it give Ian Whittaker a call on 01245 465075 (or send me an e-mail). He can arrange for your Essex Branch membership, match ticket and reserve your seat on the coach. We plan to show the Wembley game on the way there and some sort of comedy video on the way back (probably the 97/98 season review). Places are limited so call now!
Essex & Suffolk Branch Meeting:
The Essex & Suffolk Branch of the CSA are having a meeting on Friday 17th September at The Duke of Wellington Public House, Hatfield Peveral from 8:00 pm.
NB: Monies Due for the trip to City vs. Port Vale must be paid on this night. Any new members are welcome.
WHY BLUE?
I was born in Gorton in ’64, my older brother Paul preceding me by just over 3 years, and my kid bruvver Ian 18 months later. My Old Fella was (and is) a Red. This didn’t matter though, as I worshipped my big brother who, being the rebel, decided to support the Blues, mainly to p*** the Old Man off. I duly followed, with Ian turning Red. At the time, my mam’s sister was well into the 60s club scene, running pubs and clubs that attracted most of both City and United’s players including the likes of Best et al. One of Paul’s claims to fame was that, thinking she was doing him a favour, my Auntie arranged for Georgie (plus entourage), to arrive in Watson Street one Saturday morning to take Paul to that day’s Rag match in a Roller. Much to everyone’s horror, Paul refused as Bestie was a ‘Red’, and, despite actual begging (plus the odd threat), our kid stuck to his guns. I don’t think the Old Fella has forgiven him yet, and I was sold.
Thereafter, from 11 onwards (we’d moved to Moston in ’69) I went to every match I could. This stopped at 16 when I joined the Army. Mostly because the Regiment I joined was Rugby orientated and I gradually lost touch (spending the best part of 11 years abroad didn’t help. Boll*cks. Trying a tad too hard to explain lack of loyalty aren’t I?). Anyway, in ’91, I lost respect for human rights and joined the Met. Police. Now these people are football mad. That’s great if you love the Hammers or the Gooners etc, but not for a lapsed Blue like me. Eventually, after 7 years of listening to football being discussed day in, day out (whether you like it or not), I decided to adopt a London team, just to keep up with the pace. Something was nagging though. Some small voice inside murmuring, murmuring. It kept on. I ignored it and toyed with the Hammers (we Police most of their games anyway. Why not when you get to see a lot of their games on the Job’s time?). Back to the voice; City, City, it whispered. Still I ignored it.
Then, one fine day, at the begining of a particular season, the Rags were playing their first game at West Ham, and press speculation was rife as to how fans would react to Beckham’s first domestic appearance after his unforgettable tantrum in France. I’ll tell you. The United bus got bottled and 3 (yes, 3!) Rags ‘charged’ the home firm in the Anne Boleyn pub. I was outside at the time, and after a couple of hours listening to United fans gobbing off (and not a Manchester accent to be heard), I was particularly distressed to be ordered into the pub to stop this outrageous example of football hooliganism by force. Very shortly after (never forget, there are 28,000 Old Bill down here, twice that of GMP and the West Mids put together), all three miscreants were nicked by me and my carrier. One was from the West, and the other two from the home counties. What’s more, when we got them to the charging centre, in a room full of MUFC prisoners, the only Mancs present were Old Bill. Surprised? That was the final straw. Plus the nagging voice was now shouting City you moron! I checked out where in the 1st Division we were, instead to discover our place in the 2nd. The 2nd?!
This was in the autumn of last year and you all know the rest. I found the club’s web site which led me to McVitee and I’m 11 all over again. For what it’s worth, every single Southern wuss Premier supporter that I know is avidly following the Blues. Without exception, the most common view is “The sooner you get back to where you belong, the better.” Secondly, the loyalty of the Blues’ fans, especially the attendance figures, is definitely not lost on other teams, and is spoken of in admiration. They ain’t seen nothing yet!
CTASOMTBTGS (City Till A Son Of Mine Tells Beckham To Get Stuffed)
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